ot: Batten down the hatches East Coasters - hybrid sandy winter storm

MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
edited October 2012 in The Commons

oh boy. news says Monster storm coming. a Monster rawwrr

http://news.yahoo.com/hybrid-sandy-winter-storm-threatens-east-coast-064040714.html

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 946
    edited December 1969

    Hmm... I guess I've been tuning out the weatherfool these past few days... strange that my wife has not mentioned it, she is much more concerned with weather than me. They jerk you around so much I never trust them anyway.
    Thanks for the heads up.

  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited December 1969

    it's saying next Tuesday. maybe it will shift away from us. extended forecast says winds at 28mph. thaz windy.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 1,188
    edited October 2012

    Thanks for the heads up.
    I live on the east coast about 60 miles north of of Hatteras and have been following Hurricane Sandy. It is still projected to pass fairly well off shore, so I only expected some high waves and minor coastal flooding. I didn't realize Sandy was expected to combine with another storm which could change the picture to a much worse situation. I still remember the NorEaster that later became 'The Perfect Storm' off New England. We had major flooding and coastal erosion from that one.

    Charlie

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  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited December 1969

    updates on the Frankenstorm

    http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-beware-coming-frankenstorm-171317994.html

    eeeks. says snow could start Sunday. gale force winds. it's 3 storms colliding.

    house i'm in is oil heat, hoping that means i'll have heat if the power goes.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 7,242
    edited December 1969

    updates on the Frankenstorm

    http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-beware-coming-frankenstorm-171317994.html

    eeeks. says snow could start Sunday. gale force winds. it's 3 storms colliding.

    house i'm in is oil heat, hoping that means i'll have heat if the power goes.

    -Nope...

    The furnace still uses electricity for the blower and more likely than not, the igniter.

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 682
    edited October 2012

    The storm is an unusual mix of a hurricane and a winter storm.

    I'm pretty sure they mean "FORMERLY unusual". Welcome to climate change.

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  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 682
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:
    updates on the Frankenstorm

    http://news.yahoo.com/noaa-east-beware-coming-frankenstorm-171317994.html

    eeeks. says snow could start Sunday. gale force winds. it's 3 storms colliding.

    house i'm in is oil heat, hoping that means i'll have heat if the power goes.

    -Nope...

    The furnace still uses electricity for the blower and more likely than not, the igniter.

    The good news is that if you want a backup generator, a much smaller one will do.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 7,242
    edited December 1969

    pwiecek said:
    The storm is an unusual mix of a hurricane and a winter storm.

    I'm pretty sure they mean "FORMERLY unusual". Welcome to climate change.

    Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...

    The media will call it anything they want...the more sensational, the better. Winter 'hurricanes' are not common, but they aren't all that rare, either. Nor are 'winter' storms at the end of Oct/beginning of Nov...

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 1,882
    edited December 1969

    Paging Mr. Gore.. Will Mr. Algore please report to the forum, your party is waiting....

    :-)

  • reelyorreelyor Posts: 138
    edited December 1969

    Boston here. Waiting....

  • Cyn ArtCyn Art Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    :ohh: uh-oh! Thx for the HU. Had a traveling chore planned for Monday . . . but better shoot for tomorrow - just in case. (Drat, this spoils all my procrastination plans. >.< )

    Thx again!

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 913
    edited December 1969

    Down here in Miami we've had rains and wind gusts all day long that I've heard are from Sandy ....and these are just the outskirts,ya'll up north better batten down the hatches!!

  • RomancefantasyRomancefantasy Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Didn't we go through this last year with Irene? If it's worse than Irene then we could be in for some real trouble this time. I didn't get hit so much, but the areas around me were all flooded and power lines went down last year. And I remember looking for batteries last year and paying extra because I waited until the last minute. And of course I used those batteries for other things now. :roll:
    I'm gonna stock up on ramen noodles and seltzer water this time; at least I can enjoy those.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 15,779
    edited December 1969

    ...experienced a "noreaster" when I was in Wildwood years ago. The beach (which is huge) was completely swallowed up by the surge and water was menacing the hotel where I was staying at (which had sandbagged the ground floor). Had to stay an extra day as many of the roads leading out of the area were flooded. Last time I heard winds howling like that was in a strong storm that hit the Washington coast with gusts that approached 100mph.

    Fortunately the storm also closed the Philly airport as well so at least we didn't have to worry about any rebooking fees.

  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited October 2012

    any new news?

    this is the most recent i could find this morning
    http://news.yahoo.com/east-coast-braces-monster-frankenstorm-115029932.html

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  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited December 1969

    a linkie to clickie on Sandy
    http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/#SANDY

  • Miss BMiss B Posts: 3,069
    edited October 2012

    The link in today's NY Times eNewsletter was calling it a "Perfect Storm", which means the coming together of two separate storm fronts. I'm getting extra flashlights, batteries and bottled water . . . just in case.

    Hopefully it won't be as bad as they say, but better to be prepared for the worst.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 15,779
    edited December 1969

    ...cinematic cliche's aside, sounds like it could be the "perfect storm".

  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited October 2012

    stuff to tie down in the yard.

    i stocked on poptarts and Sam Adams Boston Lager. :) nourishment and

    anti-depressing with strawberry flavor and color sprinkles - or sigs with color flutterings

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  • JamahoneyJamahoney Posts: 836
    edited October 2012

    Using Bryce as a digital elevation model application one can easily turn the recent b/w image from NASA/NOAA into a 3D perspective view. I wish all you folks in its path some good luck and avoidance of this monster.

    Image credits (top): NASA/NOAA (click for larger view which shows the outline of the coast, islands and surrounds, and how these relate to the bottom render).

    Edit: Originally posted over on Bryce Discussion's Forum, and thanks to Chohole for directing me here.

    Jay

    hurricane-sandy.jpg
    1251 x 1512 - 2M
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  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited December 1969

    it looks extra scary from bryce.


    update: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/cyclones/

    ...SANDY SLOWLY MOVING AWAY FROM THE BAHAMAS AND FLORIDA... ...TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS ARE ALREADY NEAR THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA...


    who is in North Carolina? what's it like by you?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Latest I heard was Land fall as a Class 1 Cain from Washington DC to Pen next week. You folks get ready and be safe.

  • starionwolfstarionwolf Posts: 2,705
    edited December 1969

    Anybody in the Carolinas or Georgia? Is it windy? It is cloudy in Washington, D.C. I think the winds are only 10 MPH.

    I should do some online shopping before my electricity goes out. One radio station says that Sandy might landfall near Ocean City, Maryland before moving northwest.

    Jamahoney, thanks for reminding me about hightfield maps. I haven't experimented with using hightfield maps in 3D graphic programs in years.

  • MistyMistMistyMist Posts: 15,211
    edited October 2012

    advisory: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/272054.shtml?


    i can't find a weather map where it shows the 2 storms sandy is predicted to collide with and turn into frankenstorm. does it mean that danger is passed?

    is a good excuse to not go to the laundrymat
    # Sunday A chance of showers.
    Breezy, with a northeast wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph.
    # Sunday Night Showers.
    Windy, with a northeast wind 28 to 30 mph, with gusts as high as 46 mph.
    # Monday Rain.
    The rain could be heavy at times. High near 61. Very windy, with a east wind 38 to 41 mph, with gusts as high as 60 mph.
    # Monday
    Very windy, with a east wind 45 to 49 mph, with gusts as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New precipitation amounts between a half and three quarters of an inch possible.


    http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=NYZ078&warncounty=NYC103&firewxzone=NYZ078&local;_place1=&product1=Coastal+Flood+Warning

    it's just rude for coastal flooding in the middle of the night.


    KT means knots - so obvious now, doh

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  • atticanneatticanne Posts: 2,625
    edited December 1969

    it looks extra scary from bryce.


    update: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/cyclones/

    ...SANDY SLOWLY MOVING AWAY FROM THE BAHAMAS AND FLORIDA... ...TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS ARE ALREADY NEAR THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA...


    who is in North Carolina? what's it like by you?

    Miss Bad Wolf is in Charlotte NC

  • Cyn ArtCyn Art Posts: 0
    edited October 2012

    :blank: A relative mentioned this evening the news said landing looks to be around Rehoboth Beach now.

    To get your 7-day forecast, add your zip code to the green box on NOAA's page & hit "Get Weather", obviously . . .
    then click the small words "Get Detailed info" by the temp & scroll down:
    http://www.weather.gov/

    or gives the same at the NOAA Forecast Maps page:

    http://www.weather.gov/forecastmaps#


    NOAA site home: http://www.noaa.gov/


    The 7 day forecast says our area may now only get 55-60 mph wind gusts. Still, inland flooding usually causes a good deal of injuries and fatalities.


    Prayers all around, y'all. \8-//
    Stay safe.

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  • EbahrEbahr Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    advisory: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/272054.shtml?


    i can't find a weather map where it shows the 2 storms sandy is predicted to collide with and turn into frankenstorm. does it mean that danger is passed?

    Unfortunatly, no. I'm in Upstate NY myself, finishing battening down and sealing up later on today for this beasty. It's supposed to start hitting us Sunday night and Monday morning (50 mph winds, rain to start) and hit it's peak here around Wed, continuing until Friday in the latest reports.
    The super storm merger isn't so much two or three major storms merging as seen clearly on a radar. What it more amounts (in my understanding) too it a low pressure system on the west side, with cold air and high moisture will be meeting with the warm, quick moving air on the east side. Typically when a large low pressure and small high pressure meet, it results in a powerful storm, high wind and rain. The problem here is it's a large low pressure system and a very large high pressure system- making the "Superstorm" extremely large in size, and with a wind area that stretches well into Ohio, and a storm with the strength of a hurricane making it's way across land through areas like Penn, NJ, and from the looks of it, most of NY. Not sure how lake effect off the great lakes (Ontario is a monster for lake effect) will play into anything, either- so there there's a lot a variables that can effect it all, and we won't have much concrete till about Wed on how far north and how strong it's going to full hit.
    Besides flooding, the main concerns are wide area power outages (topping the great ice storm, or Irene, from local reports), millions of downed trees, and heavy damage to the electrical grid / communications. On the west front, snow and ice storms complicate things further. On the east front, storm surge and tidal flux complicates it more.
    Hopefully something will happen and it'll fizzle, but all in all, it looks..well..nasty.
    Be well all, be safe, and to those here on the eastern US- ride it out, and see ya on the other side of it all.

  • DWGDWG Posts: 772
    edited December 1969

    Google Crisis Response Sandy Map (=NOAA etc data overlaid on Google Maps) http://google.org/crisismap/sandy-2012

  • DWGDWG Posts: 772
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:
    ...cinematic cliche's aside, sounds like it could be the "perfect storm".

    Remember the cinematic cliche is the film of the book* of the original Perfect Storm (which was Hurricane Grace+a nor'easter).

    * If you haven't read it, do, still one of my top ten all time favourite reads (and Good God that was 21 years ago? Where does the time go!).

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 1,188
    edited December 1969

    Anybody in the Carolinas or Georgia? Is it windy? It is cloudy in Washington, D.C. I think the winds are only 10 MPH.

    I should do some online shopping before my electricity goes out. One radio station says that Sandy might landfall near Ocean City, Maryland before moving northwest.

    Jamahoney, thanks for reminding me about hightfield maps. I haven't experimented with using hightfield maps in 3D graphic programs in years.

    I'm live near the northern North Carolina coast (on Roanoke Island about 60 miles north of Cape Hatteras) and yes it is very windy. Winds are currently about 50 mph. I work right on the coast at Jennette's Pier in Nags Head and we were supoposed to open today. So, I got up and drove across the the high rise bridge in the high winds (kind-of-scary) to get to work; only to have them decide to close after less than hour. The waves were already breaking as high as the pier deck and the ocean was back against dunes. It would have been too dangerous to let people on the pier.; but I really did hate geting up early and going to work only to get paid for less than an hour.

    Local reports indicate that highway 12 to Hatteras has alreadywashed out.

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