now that we have genesis in poser can us whiney little poser people return...

estheresther Posts: 475
edited October 2012 in The Commons

from our exile to the poserforum and come back to the commons?

instead of having our own forum which is going to be half DS related anyway. Also the name the commons implies everyone. I think a lot of the topics here are relevant to us whingy little whiney poser folk.
Love esther

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  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,075
    edited December 1969

    Of course! Welcome back, Esther. ;)

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 3,482
    edited December 1969

    You never had to leave

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    well we sort of did. But anyway thanks for the welcome. I'M BACKKKKK!

  • RKane_1RKane_1 Posts: 1,150
    edited December 1969

    No, you didn't...

    ever...

    Poser can use many of the items produced here, they continued to support M4 and V4 even while producing items for Genesis, and now that Genesis can work in Poser, there is all the more reason to celebrate.

    Welcome back. We love you guys. Come and play with us.! :)

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    if we posted about problems our posts were moved to the poser forum which we were encouraged to use during the period when daz and poser weren't speaking.

  • Eric WaltersEric Walters Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Well if you come back-then I guess I will too! :-) I did not whine- I just curled up and sulked-quietly-in the corner.


    esther said:
    from our exile to the poserforum and come back to the commons?

    instead of having our own forum which is going to be half DS related anyway. Also the name the commons implies everyone. I think a lot of the topics here are relevant to us whingy little whiney poser folk.
    Love esther

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    I cried a bit.

  • JaguarEllaJaguarElla Posts: 10,710
    edited December 1969

    lol! maybe then the Poser users can answer some of my Poser questions that seem to get ignored in the Poser forum! %-P

  • ssgbryanssgbryan Posts: 699
    edited December 1969

    I didn't get too emotional about it.

    I am clearing out my wishlist & preparing to leave the PC club at the end of the month.

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    i'm downloading 100s of dollars of stuff and looking forward to all the DSON conversions being done for me hopefully.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,075
    edited December 1969

    They will come, Esther. :coolsmile:

    I knew it was only a matter of time before Genesis was available for Poser. So, you milk this for all it's worth, ok? ;)

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,108
    edited October 2012

    ssgbryan said:
    I didn't get too emotional about it.

    I am clearing out my wishlist & preparing to leave the PC club at the end of the month.


    Why? Aren't there PC items compatible with the DSON Importer?

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  • pantenepantene Posts: 120
    edited December 1969

    Hugz 'n kisses for everyone! I'm sorta sitting on the fence, right now. Been using Poser for ten years, but increasingly using DS Pro since 4.5. It depends on what I want to do. Why should we have to choose camps? Spread the love!

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,487
    edited December 1969

    lol! maybe then the Poser users can answer some of my Poser questions that seem to get ignored in the Poser forum! %-P

    What are your Poser questions?

    After the change over to the new forums, I didn't even notice the Poser forum still existed. It wasn't listed in drop down menu for forum links.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 3,483
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:

    After the change over to the new forums, I didn't even notice the Poser forum still existed. It wasn't listed in drop down menu for forum links.

    You are right about that. I just discovered it and see how empty it is.

    Welcome back to the commons :)

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,930
    edited December 1969

    If you click on "forums", instead of using the Abbreviated list that appears beside the word, it takes you to the forum index, where you find that there are indeed quite a few more than 8 forums on the site.

  • ssgbryanssgbryan Posts: 699
    edited December 1969

    ssgbryan said:
    I didn't get too emotional about it.

    I am clearing out my wishlist & preparing to leave the PC club at the end of the month.


    Why? Aren't there PC items compatible with the DSON Importer?

    I have had 12 months to evaluate my business relationship with the PC club and DAZ as a whole. Over the past 15 months DAZ has burned through all of the goodwill that they had accumulated with me over the prior 7 years - releasing DSON for Poser isn't changing the last 15 months.

    I very reluctantly renewed last year, because I didn't want to make a hasty decision. The past year has shown that the changes to the PC club that DAZ made were changes that made it almost worthless from my point of view.

    The problem with the PC membership is more about lack of value via-a-vis content than getting DSON working in Poser.

    Having the PC coupon only work with DAZ originals matters when you look at the content available for DAZ originals.

    Let me elaborate about content...

    Most DAZ originals appear to be Hair, Clothing, Props, and the occasional figure.

    Hair - I have 25Gb of hair - I need more hair like I need another hole in my head.

    Figures - All of the advantages of genesis do not change the fact that I have all the Caucasian 20 year-olds I'll ever need. Nothing that genesis can do will change that.

    Just for fun, go run through the figures here at DAZ - how many are non-Caucasian? 10%? How many look older than 30 (and notice how those senior citizens have 60 year old faces & 20 year old bodies.)? I got monsters - more monsters than I'll ever use. Then there is the fact that if I need a monster, I have a wide selection from Sixus1 and Sanctum Arts.

    I do stories with Poser, not still portraits of 1 figure - and since my stories do not exist in a "Logan's Run" universe - a need a wide range of characters, in a wide range of ages, and in a wide range of sizes - which is why I use a wide range of figures.

    Moving on to clothing.....
    In my opinion, too much of the clothing content for genesis is either a repeat or variation of something that I already purchased at DAZ.

    I have all the lingerie, hooker heels, and stripper clothes I will ever need. Once you mark those products out, you aren't left with very much to choose from.

    Let me give you something else to think on. Go pick 20 clothing items, any clothing items - notice how all of the clothing is worn by Caucasians. Ethnic morphs and skins have been around since at least I got here (2004), but I have only seen a couple clothing items that were worn by non-Caucasians (2 were in the Egypt set and the other was African. By the way, why is it that only Africans get tribal body paints? The early Caucasians did that a lot also). With what I do, I need an ethnically balanced choice of characters - and as I have pointed out earlier, that ain't here.

    Props & Sets - I'll miss Jack Tomalin's stuff, but I'll get over it.

    All-in-all, I am moving in a different direction than DAZ vendors. I'll miss them, but not enough to keep my PC membership.

    All of this doesn't mean that I won't use genesis - Orkasson has a YT set for genesis that I will spring for and I'll get the GenX & add- ons to move my older content to genesis. Genesis will fill gaps in my figure collection, and nothing more.

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 2,013
    edited December 1969

    ssgbryan said:

    Let me give you something else to think on. Go pick 20 clothing items, any clothing items - notice how all of the clothing is worn by Caucasians. Ethnic morphs and skins have been around since at least I got here (2004), but I have only seen a couple clothing items that were worn by non-Caucasians (2 were in the Egypt set and the other was African. By the way, why is it that only Africans get tribal body paints? The early Caucasians did that a lot also). With what I do, I need an ethnically balanced choice of characters - and as I have pointed out earlier, that ain't here.

    And chances are you won't get them with any character. To do a texture of an ethnic character, you have to get them to pose for a photosession. And that's the issue... and that's not DAZ's fault, they don't do photoreferences. Do your research: how many black male photoreferences are there available to vendors?

    Two.

    Can't get much selection from that.

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    Is there a way I can i autofit V4 hair to genesis in DS and keep the morphs that make the hair move as well that were originally in the hair?
    Love esther

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    well a lot of good info on how to do things can be found by just googling or asking questions here. we can probably manage without too much documentation. there are lots of youtube tutorials etc.

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    there is some online documentation isn't there. I keep getting offered it when I first open DS but I click it off because I'm always in a hurry to play.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,075
    edited December 1969

    esther said:
    Is there a way I can i autofit V4 hair to genesis in DS and keep the morphs that make the hair move as well that were originally in the hair?
    Love esther

    In DS? Yes, but only if you use DS 4.5 Pro. The Auto fit doesn't destroy the morphs but keeps them. In earlier versions of DS, the morphs totally destroyed.

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    well I am using DS 4.5 pro but I cant' see my morphs there.
    these are not daz clothes but my old V4 and M4 clothes which I autofit to genesis.
    love esther

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,075
    edited December 1969

    Did you try the Parameters tab or the shaping tab?

    Perhaps clicking on the clothing item twice to bring up the list and going through each individual piece to try and locate the morphs?

    That's the only thing I can think of to try and help you. They should show up, don't know why wouldn't. :down:

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    I found them thanks. they don't seem to carry over to poser when I save the hair as a subset and then use the DSON importer from within poser.

  • Satira CapriccioSatira Capriccio Posts: 522
    edited December 1969

    But ... but ... I prefer the Poser forum over the Commons!

    It's like a sanctuary.

    esther said:
    from our exile to the poserforum and come back to the commons?

    instead of having our own forum which is going to be half DS related anyway. Also the name the commons implies everyone. I think a lot of the topics here are relevant to us whingy little whiney poser folk.
    Love esther

  • JaguarEllaJaguarElla Posts: 10,710
    edited December 1969

    thats it! I should have as my question about saving dynamic cloth morphs on parts of rigged clothing items in the Carrara forum!
    (actually it WAS Carrara I ultimatety wanted to get it into and dyntomorph py only works on objects)

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 7,262
    edited December 1969

    There are different kinds of hairs ... maybe this helps:
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/1866/

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 19,986
    edited December 1969

    This thread is, as I understand it, about where people post - not the relative merits of two applications. Let's not start App War CCXVII please.

  • estheresther Posts: 475
    edited December 1969

    don't mention the war!

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