DSON Importer for Poser 1.1.1.17 General Release, Now Available!

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• esther Posts: 608

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  I can't remember if I installed it. Is there a way to tell from within poser, which version of the dson importer is installed?
• rbtwhiz Posts: 2,179

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  Recent versions have a version number in the Scripts > DSON Importer > Importer Preferences... dialog.

  -Rob
• esther Posts: 608

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  yep found it. thanks.
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  rbtwhiz said:

  Recent versions have a version number in the Scripts > DSON Importer > Importer Preferences... dialog.

  -Rob

  When I did that I get this:

  Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files\Smith Micro\Poser Pro 2012\Runtime\Python\poserScripts\ScriptsMenu\DSON Support\Importer Preferences....py", line 2, in
  import dson;
  ImportError: No module named dson
• surreality Posts: 0

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  DAZ_BHowell said:

  
  - Fixed #DSON-4: Fixed excessive per-conformer load times on Poser 2014 Mac.
  

  Thank you!
  Thank you, thank you, thank you.
  Thank you Rob and Spooky and BH and everyone else I don't know of who might have been involved: thank you, thank you, thank you.
  *bounces with glee* Working beautifully -- thank you!
• rbtwhiz Posts: 2,179

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  surreality said:

  Thank you!
  Thank you, thank you, thank you.
  Thank you Rob and Spooky and BH and everyone else I don't know of who might have been involved: thank you, thank you, thank you.
  *bounces with glee* Working beautifully -- thank you!

  You're very welcome. I'll be sure to pass it along to Chris and Ammon.

  -Rob
• rbtwhiz Posts: 2,179

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  zaintc said:

  rbtwhiz said:

  Recent versions have a version number in the Scripts > DSON Importer > Importer Preferences... dialog.

  -Rob

  When I did that I get this:

  Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Program Files\Smith Micro\Poser Pro 2012\Runtime\Python\poserScripts\ScriptsMenu\DSON Support\Importer Preferences....py", line 2, in
  import dson;
  ImportError: No module named dson
  

  How did you install? With the standalone installer, or Install Manager?

  Which version of Windows is this?

  Did you install the correct bit architecture (i.e. 32-bit or 64-bit) for the version of Poser installed to?

  Is the Importer Preferences script the only one that produces the error?

  Has it done this since you originally installed it, or is this a new behavior?

  -Rob
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  DSON_Importer_for_Poser_1.1.1.17_Win64
  Windows 7 64bit
  Standalone install
  Not sure if anything else causing errors, I only use that function

  I had it working before and then I upgraded from Poser 2012 to 2014, thats when it went wrong, went back to 2012. I could not see DSON load on 2014, now not at all

  Thanks in advance
• wimvdb_dc63ee9ce6 Posts: 183

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  This version of the DSON importer seems to run faster as the previous one
  There are a few problems however.

  The installer does not run correctly from DIM (cannot find poser) but does work correctly when you install manually by copying the files directly to the poser install folder

  Transfer Active morphs does not work correctly if you dial in morphs after you have added clothing. If you delete the clothing and add and conform it again, it works correctly.

  Applying a pose causes poke through and transfer active morphs does not seem to fix it (but that may be a limitation of the DSON implementation or Poser). Morph brush fixes it easily

  After working with the figure a while (adding morphs, clothing, hair and adding props), the poses are no longer working correctly: The lower body part is correct, but the upper body part seems to take a completely different pose. See attached picture.
  This happens with all the V6 poses. V4 poses seem to work fine
  This does not happen when you load a new v6 in a new scene and apply the poses

  

  

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• rbtwhiz Posts: 2,179

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  zaintc said:

  DSON_Importer_for_Poser_1.1.1.17_Win64
  Windows 7 64bit
  Standalone install
  Not sure if anything else causing errors, I only use that function

  I had it working before and then I upgraded from Poser 2012 to 2014, thats when it went wrong, went back to 2012. I could not see DSON load on 2014, now not at all

  Thanks in advance

  The DSON module is used in every case that you load DSON based content... not just the scripts in the menu... so when you say that you "only use that function" (referring, I presume, to the Importer Preferences), do you mean that you are unable to use any functionality that the package provides? Or do you literally mean that the only function you've tried since reverting to Poser Pro 2012 is the Importer Preferences and this is the result you get?

  You say that it was working before, in Poser Pro 2012, and then you upgraded.to 2014... which is when it stopped working. Did you re-install the importer, directing the installer to the installation of 2014 when you did that? There are files that need to be in specific locations within the application's folder/file structure for it to work.

  What do you mean by "went back to 2012"? Did you leave it installed and just start using it again... or did you go through the process of installing it again? If you re-installed it... did you install the service releases again? Did you re-install the importer? Did you manually move files around, possibly not moving everything you should have?

  The files you should have installed... to whichever version of Poser (9, 2012, 10, 2014) you are using... are:

  - /Runtime/Geometries/DAZ 3D/DSON/subdnull.obj
  - /Runtime/Python/addons/dson/__init__.py
  - /Runtime/Python/addons/dson/boost_python-vc100-mt-1_50.dll
  - /Runtime/Python/addons/dson/dzdsonimporter.pyd
  - /Runtime/Python/addons/dson/DzDSONIO.dll
  - /Runtime/Python/addons/dson/QtCore4.dll
  - /Runtime/Python/poserScripts/ScriptsMenu/DSON Support/Importer Preferences....py
  - /Runtime/Python/poserScripts/ScriptsMenu/DSON Support/SubDivision/Set SubDivision Level 0.py
  - /Runtime/Python/poserScripts/ScriptsMenu/DSON Support/SubDivision/Set SubDivision Level 1.py
  - /Runtime/Python/poserScripts/ScriptsMenu/DSON Support/SubDivision/Set SubDivision OFF.py
  - /Runtime/Python/poserScripts/ScriptsMenu/DSON Support/Transfer Active Morphs.py

  You need to install the importer that is compatible with the bit architecture of the application, not [necessarily] your operating system. Just because your OS is 64-bit doesn't mean the application is. The fact that you are on Windows 7 64-bit combined with the path in the error starting with "C:\Program Files\..." suggests that this is the 64-bit version of Poser Pro 2012 we're talking about; as the 32-bit version would be in "C:\Program Files (x86)\..." by default.

  I know these questions can seem pretty basic depending on your level of familiarity, but I can't assume anything because these are the types of things that can cause what you are seeing.

  -Rob
• rbtwhiz Posts: 2,179

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  WimvdB said:

  The installer does not run correctly from DIM (cannot find poser) but does work correctly when you install manually by copying the files directly to the poser install folder

  Install Manager doesn't "find" Poser, you have to tell it where Poser is located. You do that from the Settings dialog. The settings dialog is accessed by clicking the gear/cog icon in the upper right corner of the main window. Adding an application is done on the Applications page, by clicking the "+" button and choosing the application, version and bit architecture, and then choosing the installation path of that application in the resulting dialog. Each of the settings you choose plays a direct part in whether a plugin/add-on/extension for that application will install.

  WimvdB said:

  Transfer Active morphs does not work correctly if you dial in morphs after you have added clothing. If you delete the clothing and add and conform it again, it works correctly.

  There are enough variables involved here that your description of the problem is too vague to troubleshoot without a bit of experimentation, which I don't have time for at the moment. Please submit a support ticket with more detail about the exact steps you are performing, preferably with products in the DAZ store, including what is selected [and when] along with the names of the parameters you are experiencing this with. We need to be able to replicate it in order to track down what may be causing it.

  Applying a pose causes poke through and transfer active morphs does not seem to fix it (but that may be a limitation of the DSON implementation or Poser). Morph brush fixes it easily

  If the clothing item depends on the smoothing/collision modifier to correct poke through in DAZ Studio, you are likely to get poke through when that content is used in Poser. The smoothing/collision modifier is not supported.

  After working with the figure a while (adding morphs, clothing, hair and adding props), the poses are no longer working correctly: The lower body part is correct, but the upper body part seems to take a completely different pose. See attached picture.
  This happens with all the V6 poses. V4 poses seem to work fine
  This does not happen when you load a new v6 in a new scene and apply the poses
  

  If a pose preset that you apply sets values on channels that control the transform channels via ERC (i.e. Pose Controls), and then you apply a pose preset that doesn't... which also doesn't restore said pose channels... the pose of the figure will contain remnants of the previous pose. Pose presets that set the pose of the figure using anything but the transform channels are problematic in this way. If this is what is happening, it would be the content to blame rather than the importer - the importer simply follows the instructions it is given by the content.

  -Rob
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  OK, you guys are hurting my eyes, lol
  What I meant was that I only use Poser to transfer from Daz to open in Cinema 4D
  I dont like Poser due to its scroll knobs and I never got into it like I did Daz (for obv. reasons)
  Now,
  I removed all Poser programs and installed Poser 10/014, DSON Importer
  Poser sees the importer, now Daz is giving me this error

  Thank you for getting back to me too
  Z

  

  

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• Richard Haseltine Posts: 96,843

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  What options did you use in the Create Poser Companion Files dialogue? If it's using the CMS and that isn't working, or the file doesn't have an entry, I think you would get that error. There should be an option to convert files, telling DS what type they are rather than using the CMS.
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  I seemed to resolve this problem:
  Click the + button in the lower left-hand corner of the Content Library and choose “Material(s) Preset…”
  I dont seem to be able to locate DSON folder in Poser
• esther Posts: 608

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  My load times are still excessive. I"m running PP 2014 on mac and the 17 build of DSON.
  When I say excessive, if I try and load an outfit, several clothes it can take over 10 minutes - I didn't time it, but it may have been over 30 mins. it seemed like forever. Whatever it was, it was too long to fit into my work flow.

  

  

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• wimvdb_dc63ee9ce6 Posts: 183

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  rbtwhiz said:

  
  

  WimvdB said:

  Transfer Active morphs does not work correctly if you dial in morphs after you have added clothing. If you delete the clothing and add and conform it again, it works correctly.

  There are enough variables involved here that your description of the problem is too vague to troubleshoot without a bit of experimentation, which I don't have time for at the moment. Please submit a support ticket with more detail about the exact steps you are performing, preferably with products in the DAZ store, including what is selected [and when] along with the names of the parameters you are experiencing this with. We need to be able to replicate it in order to track down what may be causing it.

  The problem is erratic. Sometimes the script is started and finishes immediately as if it does not recognize anything has changed. And sometimes it just works fine on the same clothing and figure. There is no real reproduction scenario. It just happens regularly

  After working with the figure a while (adding morphs, clothing, hair and adding props), the poses are no longer working correctly: The lower body part is correct, but the upper body part seems to take a completely different pose. See attached picture.
  This happens with all the V6 poses. V4 poses seem to work fine
  This does not happen when you load a new v6 in a new scene and apply the poses
  

  If a pose preset that you apply sets values on channels that control the transform channels via ERC (i.e. Pose Controls), and then you apply a pose preset that doesn't... which also doesn't restore said pose channels... the pose of the figure will contain remnants of the previous pose. Pose presets that set the pose of the figure using anything but the transform channels are problematic in this way. If this is what is happening, it would be the content to blame rather than the importer - the importer simply follows the instructions it is given by the content.

  -Rob

  This happened after a while. Loading a default figure does not show the behavior. The poses used where those in the josie pro packages (all of them). There were no ERC's involved.Only pose which did work was the T Pose. Zeroing the figure did not work either.
  Probably something happened with the figure while working with it, but I have no idea what caused it
  Trying a new scene with the same figure, hair and clothing and poses did not reproduce it
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited October 2013

  For some reason. (I noticed) When I installed Poser 10/2014, certain sections of the programs are installing as Poser 9/2012 (see image) I wanted to use system restore to a point before I installed either version. No such luck, it was turned off. I feel my only recourse is regedit to resolve this, I am not sure what I am looking for. I will go see,maybe its that obvious, if anyone knows about this please share. DSON is doing the same thing creating Poser 2012 folder even when I point it towards 2014 folder

  

  

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• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  I reinstalled everything, DSON is still installing to Poser Pro 2012, even after I keep pointing towards Poser Pro 2014. How do I fix this?
• frank0314 Posts: 13,380

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  I'm not understanding why it's doing that. I've never heard of it happening. You may need to submit a support ticket
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  I have, my only conclusion is because I had both 2012 & 2014 installed. As I type it, it doesn't make sense.
• fixmypcmike Posts: 19,565

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  Did you remove PP2012 from Settings > Applications in DIM?
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  fixmypcmike said:

  Did you remove PP2012 from Settings > Applications in DIM?

  What and where is DIM?

  I saw this in Step 2 - How do I Install the Importer? item 6. of this link below

  In this screen, you are given the opportunity to choose the installation path. The default will be for "Poser 2012"

  http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dson_importer/poser/userguide/dson_installation_requirements/tutorials/dson_installation/start
• frank0314 Posts: 13,380

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  Click on the gear in the upper right hand corner and go to the applications tab and remove 2012 and add 2014
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  fixmypcmike said:

  Did you remove PP2012 from Settings > Applications in DIM?

  Ok,
  Took a min to figure out what you meant, I redirected the installation in "DIM" Daz Install Manager (You coud of just said that, lol)
  Thank you
  I assuming this image (below) states the installation went well, yet I dont see the items I sent to poser

  

  

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• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  Frank0314 said:

  Click on the gear in the upper right hand corner and go to the applications tab and remove 2012 and add 2014

  Neither was there, Daz installation was there, I removed that and added the Poser Pro 2014 folder path, then it onstalled
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited October 2013

  this the path of where daz is placing my content for poser, how do I point this in poser or add the folder path

  C:\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Presets\Characters

  Post edited by zaintc on October 2013
• fixmypcmike Posts: 19,565

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  zaintc said:

  this the path of where daz is placing my content for poser, how do I point this in poser or add the folder path

  C:\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Presets\Characters

  Poser won't see those files -- the Poser Companion Files have the files that appear in Poser. The DSON Importer looks in the Data folder, but other than Data and Runtime, the other folders under My Library are not used.
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited October 2013

  Update here are snap shots of what I did to have the DSON folder show up in Poser. I found this out by revisiting a video I found before when I was using Poser 2012, here is the link (FYI, volime is loud!!!!!)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgGNBlO_yZw

  Now the new Issue, the system crashes in Poser every time I load content, lol (laughing from crying)

  

  

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• fixmypcmike Posts: 19,565

  October 2013 edited December 1969

  You should remove the last item -- you don't want the Runtime folder itself, just the folder containing the Runtime.
• zaintc Posts: 282

  October 2013 edited October 2013

  I AM SOOO TEMPTED TO GO BACK TO POSER PRO 2012, the platform seems more stable (And it was working too)

  Post edited by zaintc on October 2013