Second Annual Kit Bashing Contest WINNERS ANNOUNCED

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• LycanthropeX Posts: 2,287

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  ooooo this will be fun :D
• Jaderail Posts: 0

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Never got close last go around, but I'll fiddle at this way way. Kinda of what I'm into now anyway.
• scorpio Posts: 8,312

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  I'm a bit confused by 'Best First Time Clothing Kit Bash' - is this for newcomers or begginers only?
  And also what is classified as a 'Non Cloth Shaders'.
  I have a couple of ideas but I'm not sure if they fit in any of the catergories?
  Thanks.
• Gloomy007 Posts: 0

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Oh cool :) Nice you do that again.. funny I just work on a render which will classyfy :D
• gingercakes47 Posts: 382

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  I should try this.
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  scorpio64dragon said:

  I'm a bit confused by 'Best First Time Clothing Kit Bash' - is this for newcomers or begginers only?
  And also what is classified as a 'Non Cloth Shaders'.
  I have a couple of ideas but I'm not sure if they fit in any of the catergories?
  Thanks.
  

  First Time Kit Bash is for people who have not previously Kit Bashed.

  Non Cloth Shaders are just that. They might be gems or metals or bricks or anything except cloth. Normally, if you are retexturing clothing in a Kit Bash you'll use cloth or fabric shaders such as Fabricator, Lace Maker, MachPack, Ye Olde Clothe or Totally Bazaar (to use examples from my collection.) This category invites people to try to something different to see if it works.
• Chohole Posts: 33,604

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  I think maybe you might have been expecting me to pull in and ask questions yet again. I already know that you do accept Bryce textures, generated from the DTE on a par with shaders.

  However do these count as cloth shaders or non cloth shaders ?
• scorpio Posts: 8,312

  January 2013 edited January 2013

  OK thanks thats what I thought it ment, as I don't have enough of the qualifying products and have always kitbashed, I guess I'll have to pass on this one.

  Having just seen Chohole's question it made me wonder I usually use Ubersurface2 shader and use any seemless tile not always a 'fabric one sometimes something from Filter Forge, how does this count.
  thanks again

  Post edited by scorpio on January 2013
• FirstBastion Posts: 7,317

  January 2013 edited January 2013

  scorpio64dragon said:

  OK thanks thats what I thought it meant, as I don't have enough of the qualifying products and have always kitbashed, I guess I'll have to pass on this one.

  The first time kit bash is just one of the many categories. Veteran kit bashers can enter for the main prizes, namely the DAZ bundles, and can win in the various sub categories like props and poses. There's no specific stipulation on those.

  Post edited by FirstBastion on January 2013
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  chohole said:

  I think maybe you might have been expecting me to pull in and ask questions yet again. I already know that you do accept Bryce textures, generated from the DTE on a par with shaders.

  However do these count as cloth shaders or non cloth shaders ?

  They are cloth shaders if they are designed to simulate or resemble cloth.
• scorpio Posts: 8,312

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Marieah said:

  chohole said:

  I think maybe you might have been expecting me to pull in and ask questions yet again. I already know that you do accept Bryce textures, generated from the DTE on a par with shaders.

  However do these count as cloth shaders or non cloth shaders ?

  They are cloth shaders if they are designed to simulate or resemble cloth.

  So a tile that was taken from a piece of parchment would be ok, or something that was wallpaper, many of the Filterforge tiles dont stipulate that they are cloth.
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  scorpio64dragon said:

  Marieah said:

  chohole said:

  I think maybe you might have been expecting me to pull in and ask questions yet again. I already know that you do accept Bryce textures, generated from the DTE on a par with shaders.

  However do these count as cloth shaders or non cloth shaders ?

  They are cloth shaders if they are designed to simulate or resemble cloth.

  So a tile that was taken from a piece of parchment would be ok, or something that was wallpaper, many of the Filterforge tiles dont stipulate that they are cloth.

  If you're using Filter Forge you'll need to make the tiles into shaders before you use them.

  It's really obvious in Filter Forge which is cloth and which isn't. The cloth has a weave.

  If you were making your own shaders and used parchment paper and a bump or displacement weave effect, then it would count as cloth. But if you wanted the dress to look like paper, and saved the parchment with settings suitable for paper, then it wouldn't count as cloth.

  If you are still confused about what is cloth and what isn't, it might be wiser to stick with surfaces that show an obvious weave or state that they are cloth.
• LycanthropeX Posts: 2,287

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Will you post any tutorials for newbies? Last year I believe there was a tutorial on the grouping tool, maybe one on making tiles into shaders would be good.
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  LycanthropeX said:

  Will you post any tutorials for newbies? Last year I believe there was a tutorial on the grouping tool, maybe one on making tiles into shaders would be good.

  This Fabricator tutorial will work http://www.sharecg.com/v/57749/view/3/PDF-Tutorial/Saving-Shaders-and-Packing-for-DS-Fabricator as long as you remember to include all settings and maps, and not just the diffuse and save them wherever you like and not into the Fabricator folder.

  Canary3d has done a tutorial on how to change mat zones on the fly in DS and Poser, and I'm sure she'll post a link to it when she drops in. It is also included in my Pimp My Prop product.
• zawarkal Posts: 1,018

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Does this require using puchased products or can we use freebie shaders?
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Zawarkal said:

  Does this require using puchased products or can we use freebie shaders?

  You can use any shaders - commercial, freebie or roll-your-own.
• zawarkal Posts: 1,018

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Marieah said:

  Zawarkal said:

  Does this require using puchased products or can we use freebie shaders?

  You can use any shaders - commercial, freebie or roll-your-own.

  great, I'm going to try to get into this challenge
• ZamuelNow Posts: 753

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  To kick things off I'm going to post two NAE's. One was my entry from last year while the other was a render I did shortly after last year's contest ended. I have an idea of what I want to do this year, just need to find time to work on it.

  

  

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• sriesch Posts: 4,241

  January 2013 edited January 2013

  PROP PIMP KIT BASH CONTEST RULES
  1. You must use parts from at least two different building sets and use shaders to retexture at least the main surfaces (external walls and roofs)
  

  For the Prop kit bash contest, do the building set parts have to be used to create a building, or am I also allowed to use building set parts to modify a vehicle structure?

  Do I have to use ALL the parts from each building set, or is it ok to use only some of the parts? For example, using just the corner tower from set 1, just a wall segment from set 2, a roof piece from set 3, etc.

  Post edited by sriesch on January 2013
• WhiteMyst Posts: 212

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  For clothing renders,do hats and footwear count?
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Sean Riesch said:

  PROP PIMP KIT BASH CONTEST RULES
  1. You must use parts from at least two different building sets and use shaders to retexture at least the main surfaces (external walls and roofs)
  

  For the Prop kit bash contest, do the building set parts have to be used to create a building, or am I also allowed to use building set parts to modify a vehicle structure?

  Do I have to use ALL the parts from each building set, or is it ok to use only some of the parts? For example, using just the corner tower from set 1, just a wall segment from set 2, a roof piece from set 3, etc.

  You only need to use some of the parts. That's what I meant in using the word "parts". Sorry if that wasn't clear.
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  WhiteMyst said:

  For clothing renders,do hats and footwear count?

  Yes they do. But kit bashing three outfits together using just dress, shoes and hat would probably not impress any contest judges who might be seeking something more inventive.
• sriesch Posts: 4,241

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Marieah said:

  Sean Riesch said:

  PROP PIMP KIT BASH CONTEST RULES
  1. You must use parts from at least two different building sets and use shaders to retexture at least the main surfaces (external walls and roofs)
  

  For the Prop kit bash contest, do the building set parts have to be used to create a building, or am I also allowed to use building set parts to modify a vehicle structure?

  Do I have to use ALL the parts from each building set, or is it ok to use only some of the parts? For example, using just the corner tower from set 1, just a wall segment from set 2, a roof piece from set 3, etc.

  You only need to use some of the parts. That's what I meant in using the word "parts". Sorry if that wasn't clear.
  Got it, thanks!

  I have one more question to add to the stack while waiting for your answer to the vehicles part of the previous question:
  We are supposed to list which shaders we used. If I'm using Bryce, and have either created or modified an existing shader, I don't have a name for it. should I just say "customized" and leave at that, or do I need to do anything more specific?
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Sean Riesch said:

  Marieah said:

  Sean Riesch said:

  PROP PIMP KIT BASH CONTEST RULES
  1. You must use parts from at least two different building sets and use shaders to retexture at least the main surfaces (external walls and roofs)
  

  For the Prop kit bash contest, do the building set parts have to be used to create a building, or am I also allowed to use building set parts to modify a vehicle structure?

  Do I have to use ALL the parts from each building set, or is it ok to use only some of the parts? For example, using just the corner tower from set 1, just a wall segment from set 2, a roof piece from set 3, etc.

  You only need to use some of the parts. That's what I meant in using the word "parts". Sorry if that wasn't clear.
  Got it, thanks!

  I have one more question to add to the stack while waiting for your answer to the vehicles part of the previous question:
  We are supposed to list which shaders we used. If I'm using Bryce, and have either created or modified an existing shader, I don't have a name for it. should I just say "customized" and leave at that, or do I need to do anything more specific?

  The vehicle is fine. Very creative.

  Customized x(description) shader will work.
• WhiteMyst Posts: 212

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Marieah said:

  WhiteMyst said:

  For clothing renders,do hats and footwear count?

  Yes they do. But kit bashing three outfits together using just dress, shoes and hat would probably not impress any contest judges who might be seeking something more inventive.

  I guess I should have asked if accessories count, footwear, headwear, sashes, capes, stuff like that. I'm trying to be more creative this time, if I can't do better then my last one I won't be entering. lol
• Marieah Posts: 518

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  WhiteMyst said:

  Marieah said:

  WhiteMyst said:

  For clothing renders,do hats and footwear count?

  Yes they do. But kit bashing three outfits together using just dress, shoes and hat would probably not impress any contest judges who might be seeking something more inventive.

  I guess I should have asked if accessories count, footwear, headwear, sashes, capes, stuff like that. I'm trying to be more creative this time, if I can't do better then my last one I won't be entering. lol

  All those things are part of an outfit, so they count. I would view things that are carried such as bags and swords as accessories that don't count because they are carried not worn.
• ZamuelNow Posts: 753

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Marieah said:

  Canary3d has done a tutorial on how to change mat zones on the fly in DS and Poser, and I'm sure she'll post a link to it when she drops in. It is also included in my Pimp My Prop product.

  Went ahead and copied that link: http://docs.daz3d.com/lib/exe/fetch.php/public/read_me/index/15625/15625_pimpmypropcanary3d.pdf
• KickAir 8P Posts: 1,865

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  Marieah said:

  Feel free to post Kit Bashing examples here as inspiration for others . . .
  Not an entry because this is from last year, but every piece of cloth shown is using a shader: from Ye Olde Clothe Bundle Weavy Bands Rose & Horizontal Rose, from MachPack the black denim. Shaders applied to the Tavern Keeper shirt and belt, the Delivery Driver fG pants, the tops of the HomeslipperZZ fG, and the band of Afro Magic 1 Hair.

  DS4.5Pro render, postwork in GIMP. Larger version in my deviantART gallery here.
  
  Hard Light

  

  

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• scorpio Posts: 8,312

  January 2013 edited January 2013

  An entry please let me know if it doesn't meet the requirements, thanks.

  Harlequin figure is wearing;
  M4 body suit
  Sleeves from the Echo set by prae availble Rendo
  Shoes are the Elfies by Badkittenco
  The Hat is from the free pirate outfit by Pretty 3D.
  The feathers in the hat are from a set called Bird of Paradise which is no longer availble.
  The belt is from the Journey scout set.

  Pierrot figure is wearing;
  Top from the Echo outfit
  Trousers from the Way of the Samuri
  Shoes from the Noddy clothing,
  Cuffs from the Just Joking set
  Collar is also from the Echo set
  The Buttons are just spheres placed and parented.
  The hat is the free Boy Hair

  Shaders used
  Furify
  Ubersurface2 my own presets.
  Mariah's Lace shader availble with the supersuit.
  Calida's Velvet Shader

  

  

  Kitbash-1.jpg

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  Post edited by scorpio on January 2013
• barbult Posts: 23,133

  January 2013 edited December 1969

  @scorpio64dragon - That is a beautiful render! The pieces fit together very well after you applied the shaders to them.