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• larsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

  December 2012 edited December 2012

  cant you save as a legacy preset?

  EDIT: File >Save as>Deprecated>Character preset

  Post edited by larsmidnatt on December 2012
• wancow Posts: 2,708

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  I guess I can... but what would be the difference between that and saving it as a Scene Subset?
• larsmidnatt Posts: 4,511

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  I don't know the answer to that. I know if I was trying to save a Gen4 character I would prefer using a character preset simply because thats where I would look for it later.

  I use scene subsets for subsets of scenes and I probably wouldn't think to look for a character there. For your example I think a scene subset is perfectly fine and can't see an advantage of a character preset. I was just throwing it out there in case you weren't aware.
• Hiro Protagonist Posts: 699

  December 2012 edited December 2012

  Isn't this actually a figure/prop rather than a preset? A preset to me modifies an existing figure (applying morphs, poses or textures), but in the case of your ship, unless I'm mistaken, you are saving a figure in itself.

  I would save as Support Asset...Figure/Prop asset. This gives you the option to define Content Type at the same time as saving it and you can call it what you like—Actor or Prop for example—from within the existing content types (although these are limited). What you define here will appear as a label overlaying the asset's icon (in Studio 4.5).

  You can also set Category (for Smart Content) when saving, but it's inconvenient, so I always do this with "Categorize..." in the Content Library. The options for Category are endless, but you could use the standard Transportation root category and it will appear in Smart Content with other vehicles and such (or at least those that have correct metadata, such as recent and updated vehicles from DAZ). Save it where figures or props go, rather than scenes or sub-scenes (because as a single figure/prop it is not a scene).

  I only save as a scene subset or scene asset* if there are multiple objects posed or arranged in a certain way that I might want to merge into scenes (e.g. a sofa and chairs, or a clothed character).

  
  * Just thought I'd note that a Scene Subset is labelled "Set" and merges with your existing scene by default, whereas a Scene Asset is labelled "Scene" and is intended as a complete scene which will close your existing scene before loading, unless you use the option to merge it.

  Post edited by Hiro Protagonist on December 2012
• Mattymanx Posts: 6,879

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  I will double check the Chaffee for scale but in the mean time, please see this bit of info from Doug Drexler - http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2011/03/26/chaffee-defiants-perky-shuttle/ - The one image which shows it in comparison to a car should help.
• kitakoredaz Posts: 3,526

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  Hi,, Hiro,,,,, if wancow said about cr2 files?

  I thought samething about some sword or accessory cr2 which have bone,, before,,,

  (but it is not prop, if they have rig, it is figure, I remember before asked same thing,,and taught from other user so,, ^^;
  they seems not figure,, but if the prop has rig, it need to call figure,,,when talk about rig,,,)

  then,,, I think,,we can not save cr2 or pp2 as figure or prop in ds ,,untill change them as triax figure..

  so best way is save them by poser format exporter,, ,,about cr2 or pp2 files.

  and if wancow hope to save preset of legacy figure,,, need to save as legacy preset files,,larsmidnatt said,,and it is right.

  preset can apply figure in the scene,, and can change shape or material,, or poze,, but scene subset can not apply
  and change figure shape etc,,)

  on the other hand, legacy preset can not load the figure,, so I understand wancow may choose scene sub set,,
  if wancow need not preset,,, just want to save and load them.

  "duf character preset" seems exception for genesis and new daz format,,, I think^^; it can load genesis,, without genesis.
  but it can work as preset too.

  then,,,
  I can not memorize every save option ot top menu,, how they work, ^^;
  (so,, daz need release official manual,, when they finish it ><;)</p>
• Mattymanx Posts: 6,879

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  The Poser Format Exporter will only export body, hand and facial poses. The included CCT in DS will export CR2 files but the figure needs to be rigged the Poser way inorder for it to work. You cannot just export a Genesis outfit as a CR2.

  To export a PP2 from DS you need to use the PP2 Exporter Script called OBJ2PP2 which is free here - http://www.mediafire.com/?3m5gbz5f8bjjgjm

  Place it anywhere in your DS Content folder to access it.
• Bejaymac Posts: 1,838

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  Presets don't generally deal with mesh/morph deltas, they normally require the mesh/morphs to already be in the scene before you apply the preset. The character preset(DUF) isn't all that different, where it differs is that it only works with TriAx figures, and will actually load the figure for you before applying the settings stored inside.

  Props have two real options for saving them, doesn't matter if it's been loaded as an OBJ or as a PP2, as long as it doesn't have bones you can save it using "Figure/Prop Asset", that way it get's it's own DUF loader file and the asset files(DSF) get stored in their own little area of the data folder. You can do the same with a scene subset, but instead of the asset files being in their own little area, they get dumped in the data/auto_adapted folder with everything else.

  Poser figures you can either work with them the same way we always have, using the Poser files and applying DS presets to them, and once your finished save it as a scene, or you can load your figures one at a time, make sure to INJect all of the morphs the figure has channels for, and save it as a scene subset and then use that DUF file from now on instead of the Poser file, a fully injected V4.2 loads a hell of a lot quicker as a subset than the empty base cr2 ever did. Never convert a Poser figure to TriAX just to save it with "Figure/Prop Asset", because doing that will break the morph INJection system, as you can't INJect into a TriAx channel, only add new channels through morphloader or the bridges or from DForms.

  A little tip about the subset, Poser users will know what I mean with "saving back to the Library", they tend to build a character, applying morphs, textures, putting on hair, clothing etc, and then save it to the figure library, which saves everything fitted to & parented to the main figure into a big CR2. Well the scene subset is our version of this, and it doesn't just work on Genesis as you can use any figure you want even Posette if you have her.
• kitakoredaz Posts: 3,526

  December 2012 edited December 1969

  Wao,, I made two big mistake TT;) so sorry wancow, manttymanx (it is serious,, please forgive me)

  wancow sorry,, I never hope to confuse you.\ just thought you get trouble about samething what I felt before,,

  Cr2 can not exprot by Poser Format Exporter . (my mistake 1)

  I installed the mattymanx tool in ds before,, I do not remember name clear,,
  then exported and save my rigged cr2 simple figure for test..
  after that I find poser exporter ,,, I believed they are same tool,,,.
  so uninstalled Mattymanx tool,, now I can not save or export cr2 too ,,;

  and you can save pp2 (not rigged) as figure or prop as same as improted obj.(my mistake 2)

  
  I apologize you.