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Fibermesh hair!

ArtXtreme101ArtXtreme101 Posts: 68
edited December 1969 in The Commons

Hey all! So I just discovered the fibermesh hair that Neftis3D makes and I was wondering if anyone knew of any other places that sell fibermesh hair compatible with DAZ Studio??? (It looks great in my realistic renders!)
Any info would be great! Thanks!

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 96,718
    edited December 1969

    Mec4D has also used Fibremesh to make hair - it isn't a thing in DS, but a tool in ZBrush for making hair which can be exported as OBJ and used in other applications (unlike many strand-based hair systems).

  • ValandarValandar Posts: 1,417
    edited December 1969

    And I guess I should mention my Gnome for Genesis includes Fibermesh whiskers...

    http://www.daz3d.com/shop/gnome-for-genesis

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited November 2012

    For people who want just what they want you might read this thread.
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/381/

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited November 2012

    Jaderail said:
    For people who want just what they want you might read this thread.
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/381/

    I wish you could do that in daz! :) I've been playing with Galbaldi hair plugin beta... Some issues with it due to crashing, also multiple UV on a character is a no no unfortunately. You cant view it in the view port, and raytrace shadows are a no no :(

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,045
    edited December 1969

    I made Manfuzz, but thats full body hair. Not really a hairstyle.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    And I use that all the time lol! Same principle :) I need very short fiber mesh head hair... I'm hoping this fiber mesh plug in will be available soon, I'm in much need of hair styles... And there is very limited good short hair.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Spyro said:
    Jaderail said:
    For people who want just what they want you might read this thread.
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/381/

    I wish you could do that in daz! :) I've been playing with Galbaldi hair plugin beta... Some issues with it due to crashing, also multiple UV on a character is a no no unfortunately. You cant view it in the view port, and raytrace shadows are a no no :(Just for those that do not know the LAMH is a DS4 plugin that is in the last stages of testing. It is for DS, then we can all do it.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    I seriously can not wait jader!!! I have too many bald characters who are in limbo cos I haven't the appropriate hairstyle for them lol

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Even spyro's brother is bald! Lmao! :-P

  • ledheadledhead Posts: 1,586
    edited November 2012

    I want hair that can do this!

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    I believe with this upcoming fiber mesh creation plugin that is indeed possible :)

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 1969

    I want hair that can do this![/quote

    Here's a quicky from LAMH (literally 5 minutes from start to finish)

    Kendall

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  • JoeQuickJoeQuick Posts: 1,698
    edited December 1969

    This is the free beta version of the hair included with my superhero product "goldenage". My goal with it was to keep the poly count down, so it's not going to look anywhere near as good as something done with a less conservative eye. But it's something to play around with. Subd will smooth it out some. I'd imagine that if there are shaders with the commercial Fibermesh hair you've bought, they'll work just as good on this.

    http://www.ShareCG.com/v/60142/gallery/11/Poser/M4-Hero-Hair-(Beta-Version)

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    Fibermesh:
    http://www.mec4d.com/store/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=82

  • Midnight_storiesMidnight_stories Posts: 4,112
    edited December 1969

    Well I'll give you an idea of the good points and the bad points.
    For me anyway

    Good
    very quick to create
    Fiber UV are excellent for transparency maps and gradient maps
    Morph are so easy to make you can have a huge range of styles.
    Rigging wise if you're just doing short hair there's no work in it, the transform template works excellent.

    Bad
    Close up with fiber mesh that has no transparency maps renders are terrible and blocky OK from a distance!
    Mesh with transparency maps will render between 1h to 4h rendering at best quality but quick with default lights
    Animal fur extremely hard to rig due to the weight mapping and you need a space between the leg or they pull on each other.
    Daz file can be huge even when compressed
    Very hard to get the poly count down and maintain coverage.

    If you want to lean it Digital Tutors have some good tuts

    I think only me and Mech4D are use it in production but more and more people are using it.

  • ZaarinZaarin Posts: 359
    edited December 1969

    midnight_stories said:
    Well I'll give you an idea of the good points and the bad points.
    For me anyway

    Good
    very quick to create
    Fiber UV are excellent for transparency maps and gradient maps
    Morph are so easy to make you can have a huge range of styles.
    Rigging wise if you're just doing short hair there's no work in it, the transform template works excellent.

    Bad
    Close up with fiber mesh that has no transparency maps renders are terrible and blocky OK from a distance!
    Mesh with transparency maps will render between 1h to 4h rendering at best quality but quick with default lights
    Animal fur extremely hard to rig due to the weight mapping and you need a space between the leg or they pull on each other.
    Daz file can be huge even when compressed
    Very hard to get the poly count down and maintain coverage.

    If you want to lean it Digital Tutors have some good tuts

    I think only me and Mech4D are use it in production but more and more people are using it.


    Neftis3D has three fiber hair products in her store here, and Joequick has at least one at Rendo.
  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    The thing is that short hairstyles are likely so few because standard trans maps often make a mess out of the realism of short hair. The ones that pass in the OK factor, require heavy re-texturing and tweaking... and in close ups, even still, there are complications, I've found that even the shortest trans-mapped short hair renders as slow as highly detailed long hair despite having lesser satisfactory close-up outcome.

  • DisparateDreamerDisparateDreamer Posts: 2,490
    edited November 2012

    VERY affordable mesh hair by Adam Thwaites:
    http://www.most-digital-creations.com/poser_daz_studio_hair.htm
    (Tala, Wild, Funky, Tough, Short, Beard, Wet, Sensual,and Body hair are ALL mesh hairs, the rest aren't far as I know). They are fabulous!! I have several. :)
    If you haven't already, check out Adam's HUGE freebie list for tons of free props, sets, hair addons, textures, poses, and wonders. :D So much love for Adam Thwaites!

    Secondly,
    Alfaseed at RDNA sells some lovely mesh hairs with so many morphs that are WELL worth the price.
    1. http://www.runtimedna.com/CapriceHair.html
    2. http://www.runtimedna.com/SantaMonicaHair.html
    and addon: http://www.runtimedna.com/SantaMonicaBraids.html
    and addon: http://www.runtimedna.com/SantaMonicaAddOn.html
    3. http://www.runtimedna.com/DesirHair.html
    (my personal all time favorite!)
    4. http://www.runtimedna.com/FantasyDropsHair.html
    and addon: http://www.runtimedna.com/FantasyDropsPlus.html

    Neftis here at Daz makes fantastic fibermesh hair as well: BONUS: they are all currently 50% OFF!!!!
    1.http://www.daz3d.com/shop/guillaume-hair-for-genesis-and-m4
    2.http://www.daz3d.com/shop/nikkou-hair-for-hiro-5
    3. http://www.daz3d.com/shop/sharon-hairstyle-for-v4-and-genesis
    4. http://www.daz3d.com/shop/beautiful-black-hairstyles
    5. http://www.daz3d.com/shop/historical-curls

    and i THINK Goya hairstyle might be fibermesh? But it doesn't say if it is, so maybe someone knows? http://www.daz3d.com/shop/goya-hairstyle

    There's a lot more options than you'd think! I know there's more out there. Joe Quick has a couple freebies at ShareCg of fibermesh stuff, but far as I recall none came with any readmes so likely consider them purely noncommercial use, especially beta (and the super hero hair definitely is a beta unless you bought it). He recently made fiber eyebrows freebie f I remember correctly.

    I'm sure there must be others...

    And just wait till LAMH comes out, you'll LOVE it. :D :D :D

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  • Neftis3DNeftis3D Posts: 60
    edited November 2012

    Oh cool!!! A fibermesh post!!!!
    OK guys, I was not supposed to but here I have some up coming Fibermesh product previews for U.
    Jayden Fever hair Style (Coming very soon)
    Paul hair and a new one I have no name yet, but it's a ponytail fibermesh Style.

    Nef

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Oh coool! These are great! and quite realistic wow :cheese: are they for genesis? Also, you wouldn't happen to be interested in a request or two? lol

  • Neftis3DNeftis3D Posts: 60
    edited December 1969

    Spyro said:
    Oh coool! These are great! and quite realistic wow :cheese: are they for genesis? Also, you wouldn't happen to be interested in a request or two? lol


    Yep!! all for genesis and also YES I take requests! :) I love a good challenge!

    Nef :cheese:

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,146
    edited December 2012

    Never mind, got it figured out how to get fibermesh hair to conform and resize with Genesis. When doing my tutorial to make the hair a conformer to Genesis there are extra bones. I often remove some of them to clean it up but for some reason with fibermesh if these bones are left in place the hair follows just fine.... See the screen shot below

    Here is the tutorial:
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/1866/

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  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,317
    edited December 1969

    The Garibaldi plugin for DazStudio look interesting.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/9943/

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Neftis3D said:
    Spyro said:
    Oh coool! These are great! and quite realistic wow :cheese: are they for genesis? Also, you wouldn't happen to be interested in a request or two? lol


    Yep!! all for genesis and also YES I take requests! :) I love a good challenge!

    Nef :cheese:

    Thankyou so much! I sent you a PM in regards to a possible hairstyle you might be interested in making :) I've been struggling to find one that suits what I'm after.

  • randym77randym77 Posts: 272
    edited December 1969

    Neftis3D said:
    Oh cool!!! A fibermesh post!!!!
    OK guys, I was not supposed to but here I have some up coming Fibermesh product previews for U.
    Jayden Fever hair Style (Coming very soon)

    OMG! It's Justin Bieber.

    I like it. The curly hair, too.

    Please let it work with Poser, too...

  • Neftis3DNeftis3D Posts: 60
    edited December 1969

    Huh???? I am afraid I don't understand your statement here! I think Mec4D and I simply used the transfer tool in Daz Studio... At least That is what I do to create my fit morphs. I don't seems to have any trouble to pass the rigorous Daz 3d testing team, and they make sure to always check that the fit morphs are all OK.
    The transfer tool is really great and I rarely have to correct more than minor fit problems.
    By the way sorry for my bad English as I am French from ground.

    Neffy :)

    RAMWolff said:
    Nef, just wondering why there seems to be no way to make fibermesh conform to Genesis that can resize as the figure is resized. I tried this with your hair product you included in Hiro 5 bundle after doing my little tutorial to make it a proper conformer and while the body resizes the hair moves a little bit but not much. This is very off putting to those of us that really like hair and clothing that follows the figures shape and size. Mec4D (Cath) has this figured out somehow ... might be worth tapping her on the shoulder I think. You do spectacular work but I'm afraid until this is resolved I'll have to stick with the older hair type models for Genesis. Sorry hon!

    Never mind, got it figured out. When doing the tutorial to make the hair a conformer to Genesis there are extra bones. I often remove some of them to clean it up but for some reason with fibermesh if these bones are left in place the hair follows just fine.... See the screen shot below

    Here is the tutorial:
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/1866/

  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,146
    edited December 1969

    I hope I didn't offend you honey. I just wanted to know if I buy fibermesh hair that if I conform it to Genesis it will follow along with the figure as I reshape it and resize it. That's all. If not then my tutorial DOES work to accomplish this need.

  • Neftis3DNeftis3D Posts: 60
    edited December 1969

    Hey no offense what so ever here to my fav wolf!
    I am glad people care to create great tutorials like you do! It is always so very useful for the users over here, I say Thank you for your work!


    RAMWolff said:
    I hope I didn't offend you honey. I just wanted to know if I buy fibermesh hair that if I conform it to Genesis it will follow along with the figure as I reshape it and resize it. That's all. If not then my tutorial DOES work to accomplish this need.
  • RAMWolffRAMWolff Posts: 10,146
    edited December 1969

    No, it's I to thank you for inspiration and I know how much you put into your work. I hope, if you need the tut, that it helps you in your creationism! XOXO

  • ZaarinZaarin Posts: 359
    edited December 1969

    Neftis3D said:
    Oh cool!!! A fibermesh post!!!!
    OK guys, I was not supposed to but here I have some up coming Fibermesh product previews for U.
    Jayden Fever hair Style (Coming very soon)
    Paul hair and a new one I have no name yet, but it's a ponytail fibermesh Style.

    Nef


    I'll pass on the Bieber Hair, but I LOVE those curls! :D
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