Imposible to obtain good result

JavPJavP Posts: 121
edited December 1969 in Daz Studio Discussion

I am beginning to try to put all my patiente again in a new attack with my same old scene not can be finished all this year. . But it is impossible to obtain a reallistic result with the quality level 3.

The 4.5 continue giving crashes and errors it I try to use the level 4. But at least if there is a crash, I can later restart the program, and obtain an error in a second try. I send you the log. What is thte last error ?

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jue 18. oct 04:48:13 2012
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, www.daz3d.com
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Comments

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,879
    edited December 1969

    Can you please post a screen shot of what you are trying to render?

    Thank you

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    You have just a little over 2 GB of memory available to use for the scene. You are loading over 50 texture images...some are bitmap or tif...both formats tend to be large files

    If you have complex figures/geometry in the scene, all those images (especially if those bitmaps ARE large) you could very well be running out of memory.

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Sorry. I don't know why. But the models and the textures are exactly the same in all the levels. The error said that I must send this to DAZ. I do it, and I believe that is other cause. I can't believe that this models with 6 lights and only 1 camera can be so heavy.

    In the past one of the pieces without a certain cause, was the problem of the crashing. I could begin to erase pieces. But I think that it would be better if this error could say something about what piece is. I have the maximum memory that XP can move. I could arrive to little more deactivating the firewall and antivirus, but the result is the same.

    Thank you.

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  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Is these normal ?

    GL_AMDX_debug_output : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMDX_vertex_shader_tessellator : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_pinned_memory : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_query_buffer_object : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_shader_trace : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_texture_cube_map_array : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_ARB_texture_snorm : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_copy_buffer : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_direct_state_access : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texgen_reflection : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_bptc : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texture_lod : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texture_storage : NOT INITIALIZED

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Well, again working for DAZ...

    Mountains deleted.
    Pilot deleted.
    Sky deleted.
    Big surfaces deleted.

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  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Seems to go.... but NOT. ( What a surprise ).

    Observe the 3delight's error message RI_FOV out of range.

    Who was the genious who made 3delight ?

    It is incredible that DAZ has a so good render in real time into the editor, and a so bad render for output.

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  • Norse GraphicsNorse Graphics Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    If you save the background as a scene separately, the same with the plane and render them each on their own and combine them in Photoshop. The best way to obtain max memory is to close DAZ Studio and restart it clean, load the simple scene (eg., the plane) and render. I think the issue is lack of memory.

  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 1,322
    edited December 1969

    How big (polygons) is that jet? What's the memory use of DAZ Studio after loading the scene, but prior to rendering (just open the task manager and look at the memory use of dazstudio.exe).

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 1969

    JavP said:
    Seems to go.... but NOT. ( What a surprise ).

    Observe the 3delight's error message RI_FOV out of range.

    Who was the genious who made 3delight ?

    It is incredible that DAZ has a so good render in real time into the editor, and a so bad render for output.

    3Delight is a professional level rendering engine, used in many movies that you would recognize (http://www.3delight.com/en/index.php?page=projects). However, your environment is not conducive to running images to full photoreal levels.

    The first thing to try is to lower the size of the texture images, or switch to procedural shaders where possible. Another option is to install the free 3delight standalone render package, output your scene to .rib, and then render outside of Studio. This will give you the full memory capability of your machine.

    Kendall

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Thank you very muh for so much help.

    Norse, yes I think the same. With Vegas I could mix the background with a chrome effect. But as you can see the problem persist only with the plane and plain surfaces.

    Adam, hello. I don't know how to know the number of polygons. The memory DAZ memory ussage prior the render is 609.636 Kb, the virtual memory usage 579.592 Kb and 168 user's objects. During the render, the memory usage arrives to 845.480 Kb, the virtual memory 818.672 Kb, and 188 objects.

    Kendall, the question about 3delight has an old history, and probably about it's C++ libary an core system to avoid not well definded commands. It is not normal to have so breaks in a software. I putted an old problem in Mantis about this same plane, and the problem was finnaly a piece simulating a flame. Reasson ? I don't know why. But deleting it from the scene the problems dissapeared.

    Now there are problems again. The question is that a model maked with Hexagon ( I like very much ) , well viewed too into the DAZ Studio's editor ( I like too ), arrives to a crash at the render moment. At the end I think that the shadow / light process have serious problems with some type of models. The FOV error is an example about 3delight is sending a core error about something that DAZ can resolve, but 3delight not.

    I will try the standalone 3delight. But I would like to use DAZ.

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Kendall... I have instaled 3delight but... I don't see how to save the scene in .rib. None in save, save as or the export formats.

    In a new render of the same scene:

    DAZStudio.exe caused UNKNOWN_ERROR in module "C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll" at 001B:7C812AFB, RaiseException()+82 byte(s)

    ( Kernel 32 of course, is the core of Windows aborting a bad command )

    EAX=568BE5D0 EBX=53F1EFE8 ECX=00000000 EDX=0D09E020
    ESI=568BE658 EDI=0D09D45C FLG=00000206
    EBP=568BE620 ESP=568BE5CC EIP=7C812AFB
    CS=001B DS=0023 SS=0023 ES=0023 FS=003B GS=0000

    These are the BAD VALUES of that commands that are been sended to the proccesor, and that the core abort to avoid a general crash of the system.

    And the origin:

    RaiseException()+82 byte(s)
    Dz3DelightDll::DSLo_DetailtoStr()+2461689 byte(s)
    Dz3DelightDll::DSLo_DetailtoStr()+2459979 byte(s)
    Dz3DelightDll::DSLo_DetailtoStr()+2219491 byte(s)

    Current Memory Load: 38%
    Total Physical Memory: 3326 MB
    Available Physical Memory: 2037 MB
    Total Page File Memory: 4095 MB
    Available Page File Memory: 4095 MB

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    JavP said:
    Is these normal ?

    GL_AMDX_debug_output : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMDX_vertex_shader_tessellator : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_pinned_memory : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_query_buffer_object : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_shader_trace : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_texture_cube_map_array : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_vertex_shader_layer : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_AMD_vertex_shader_viewport_index : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_ARB_texture_snorm : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_copy_buffer : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_direct_state_access : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texgen_reflection : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_bptc : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texture_lod : NOT INITIALIZED
    GL_EXT_texture_storage : NOT INITIALIZED

    Yes, that is normal...those are features of OpenGL that your video card doesn't support.

    Adam, hello. I don't know how to know the number of polygons. The memory DAZ memory ussage prior the render is 609.636 Kb, the virtual memory usage 579.592 Kb and 168 user's objects. During the render, the memory usage arrives to 845.480 Kb, the virtual memory 818.672 Kb, and 188 objects.

    If everything had enough memory, then you would NOT be using ANY virtual memory. You don't have any other items listed...the Content Management Service is going to be using memory, so are whatever other Windows processes that are running. The root of your problem, to all appearances, is memory related.

    And if the scene used to work, before 4.x...there is one other possibility. You could have a stick of RAM going bad...

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 1969

    JavP said:
    Kendall... I have instaled 3delight but... I don't see how to save the scene in .rib. None in save, save as or the export formats.

    In the advanced render settings: render to RIB

    Give the RIB a name and path.
    Render the scene. You'll get a blank render area, ignore this. Once the progress dialog closes, exit DS and use the renderdl program on the RIB file you just created.

    Kendall

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Thank you mjc:

    About the memory, the virtual memory is the base of Windows. Is the key to use programs like graphic programs in WIndows. All in Windows uses virtual memory. No one program can work out of this cache. The rest of procceses are of much lower memory usage.

    About the bad stick... well... I can play videogames that consumes much more memory, Vegas Studio to create movies.... and all is fine. But.... yes. It can be a solar storm too.

    Javier

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Thank you Kendall, I will proove it.

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 1969

    JavP said:
    Thank you Kendall, I will proove it.

    Just out of curiosity... where did you get the jet from? I'd like to try to see if I can replicate your results.

    Kendall

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    I made it all from cero with Hexagon Kendall. Like the terrains. There are one year of work there.

    You can see the evolution here, and a "LEVEL 3" RENDERING.

    http://www.facebook.com/javier.povedano.v

    Good fly.

  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited October 2012

    JavP said:
    I made it all from cero with Hexagon Kendall. Like the terrains. There are one year of work there.

    You can see the evolution here, and a "LEVEL 3" RENDERING.

    http://www.facebook.com/javier.povedano.v

    Good fly.

    Well, I guess I can't try to replicate the error :-) Nice model!

    Looking back at your previous post. You're going to want to remove everything in the valley behind the first line of mountains, as well as the backside of the 2nd. Those polygons are nothing but wasted memory. LOTS and LOTS of wasted memory by the looks of the detail. They aren't going to help your render in any way.

    Also, since you are doing an aerial set, you should run the renders in 2 passes. First pass without the jet, and the 2nd without the hills. Then use a 2d bitmap package to overlay the jet onto the landscape. Since there are no shadows this will save you HUGE amounts of time. Running 2 passes will take less time than 1 pass with everything.

    Just some friendly advice from someone who also likes to do extremely detailed renders.

    ALSO: Switch your distance lights off of shadow maps and to raytracing @ no more than 1 bounce for the landscape render. In the newer versions of 3DL raytracing is going to use fewer resources and render faster than the shadow maps.

    Kendall

    Post edited by Kendall Sears on
  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Ok. I will proove it.

    Let me 40 hours for sleep, work in my other but official and real work, and attack again this problem.

    Thank you again for to be there.

    Javier

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Also I wouldn't rely on the Render Quilaity Presets can we see all you Advanced Render settings please

  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 1,322
    edited December 1969

    Yup, that's the next bit of info we need. A screenshot ideally of the entirety of your advanced render settings tab would be perfect.

    DAZ Studio is quite capable of rendering massive images. It's something of a hobby of mine to "push" DS to its limits. Some of the largest renders I've done have used nearly 12GB of RAM.

    This one is about 6.6GB of RAM http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/The-Dragon-Battle-205847981 during rendering.
    This one is almost 11.3GB of RAM during rendering... http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/Adventure-Classics-04-Redux-173248510

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    adamr001 said:
    This one is almost 11.3GB of RAM during rendering... http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/Adventure-Classics-04-Redux-173248510

    Where's the kitchen sink?

  • prixatprixat Posts: 1,585
    edited December 1969

    hexagon should be able to tell you the polycount.

    It looks nicely detailed!:-)

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited October 2012

    prixat said:
    hexagon should be able to tell you the polycount.

    It looks nicely detailed!:-)

    So can Daz Studio via the Scene Info Pane. It will show what the scene polycount (faces) is or what the count is for a selected object.
    Post edited by Szark on
  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 1,322
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:
    adamr001 said:
    This one is almost 11.3GB of RAM during rendering... http://adamtls.deviantart.com/art/Adventure-Classics-04-Redux-173248510

    Where's the kitchen sink?It's under water, drain was plugged up. ;)

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    Thank you.

    The render parameters are the default for level 4, except the 16:9 format with res 1024 x 576.
    The information of the original scene:

    Nodes : 114
    Lights : 4
    Cameras : 1
    World-Space Modifiers : 0

    Scene Geometry :
    Total Vertices : 2132702
    Total Triangles : 636826
    Total Quads : 1769776
    Total Faces : 2406602

    The information of the 1st scene that I can render deleting objects:

    Nodes : 60
    Lights : 4
    Cameras : 1
    World-Space Modifiers : 0

    Scene Geometry :
    Total Vertices : 737727
    Total Triangles : 94544
    Total Quads : 668098
    Total Faces : 762642

    In any case I see that i am not the only one with these problems, and I see somebody exactly width the same error:

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/5940/
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/10118/
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/5940/P15

    Javier

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Well if you are using the Defualt render setting then there is problem one, hence way we asked for a screen shot like the one below.

    Anyways 2 million faces (polygons) are way too many foir your computer to handle.

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  • Design Anvil - Razor42Design Anvil - Razor42 Posts: 1,234
    edited October 2012

    I'd suggest turning all of the texture maps off in the surface tab then saving as a new file. Quit Daz Studio and maybe reboot your computer. Restart then Load the new scene with no texture maps and attempt a render. This will at least let you know if the issue is with geometry or with the texture maps.

    Though I agree with Szark 2 million is pretty heavy

    Post edited by Design Anvil - Razor42 on
  • Kendall SearsKendall Sears Posts: 2,995
    edited December 1969

    JavP said:
    Thank you.

    The render parameters are the default for level 4, except the 16:9 format with res 1024 x 576.
    The information of the original scene:

    Nodes : 114
    Lights : 4
    Cameras : 1
    World-Space Modifiers : 0

    Scene Geometry :
    Total Vertices : 2132702
    Total Triangles : 636826
    Total Quads : 1769776
    Total Faces : 2406602

    The information of the 1st scene that I can render deleting objects:

    Nodes : 60
    Lights : 4
    Cameras : 1
    World-Space Modifiers : 0

    Scene Geometry :
    Total Vertices : 737727
    Total Triangles : 94544
    Total Quads : 668098
    Total Faces : 762642

    In any case I see that i am not the only one with these problems, and I see somebody exactly width the same error:

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/5940/
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/10118/
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/5940/P15

    Javier

    You're not likely to get 2.4 million faces rendered in a 32 bit environment with textures. There's not enough memory space available. This isn't a DS or 3Delight issue, just an issue of too much geometry for the environment.

    If it isn't in your viewport, delete it from the scene. Seriously. You've got a whole bunch of poly's that are doing nothing for you except using memory.

    Kendall

  • JavPJavP Posts: 121
    edited December 1969

    As I show you, the 1st frame that I can render at 4 level has this:

    Scene Geometry :
    Total Vertices : 737727
    Total Triangles : 94544
    Total Quads : 668098
    Total Faces : 762642

    Well, I have other scene width Michael 4 and a flight swit. All from DAZ content. The question is that only this combination have 246.000 faces. Put 3 pilots together and you will be out of limits. Or add a vehicle, a background, a second person and you will be again in the limits. This not seems to me very serious.

    Kendall, yes. Shure that there is a lot of faces that can be deleted. But there are a lot of them that had to be putted to force to DAZ to understand surfaces that were perfectly in Hexagon, but not well displayed later by DAZ. Other part are an effort to make a model that can be used for very nearly takes too, and of course the rest are my own mistakes.

    The question is that I am very, very, very tired to solve problems since June, to arrive to a no exit way. I will not redesign all... for memory limits... or from my point of view, software limits.

    What machine will I need and what OS to render this in quality 4 ? I have a server with W2008, perfect to avoid memory limits, but it's funny. Daz does not can be used into. Seriously. I will buy it.

    I send you the only scene that I can render at this moment. No mountains, no sky, no surfaces. no pilot, no seat, no cupule, no tails, no flames, no, no, no, no.... nothing.

    Javier

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